Thursday, February 25, 2010

Cedar Rapids Mobile Speed Cameras

Aggressive Mobile Speed Cameras Now Running In CR

Speeding 1 MPH over the posted speed limit will cost your $25 in Cedar Rapids, Iowa according to CBS KGAN (Video).  This policy sounds extremely aggressive and difficult to manage considering that if you are traveling 26 MPH in a 25 MPH school zone you will receive a ticket in the mail for $25.  Also, it was reported that speeding in a construction zone the fines are doubled.

Red light cameras are in place around Cedar Rapids and catching people red handed, but the eyes of Cedar Rapids Police aren't fixed in one place for speeders. Now police are tracking your speed all over the place. Police say schools and construction zones will be strictly enforced. The process for issuing citations will be similar to the red light camera. Police will place the mobile speed vehicle at various places throughout the city to catch speeders.  Police say the camera will be out for a few hours a day or maybe at night?  If you're caught speeding this way, it won't go on your driving record because it's considered a civil matter.

I happened to grow up in Cedar Rapids about 20 years ago and disappointed to see that city officials have to stoop this low to generate revenue for a city that is still suffered from the floods a few years ago.  This is not likely the end of the story so follow us and we will keep you posted.

54 comments:

  1. I totally agree with you "Stoop" and so low.

    The use of mobile cameras have strict requirements but, if you can not prove the particulars at the "Exact" time of infraction, you can not fight this type of "Tyrany.

    I am very disappointed with the current leaders of Cedar Rapids. Allow police to "Subjectively" tag drivers is unconstitutional. Does anyone out there really think a City Councilor will ever be cited ? Really !

    Rob

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  2. You guys are crazy. I've only lived here for about two years but I've never been anywhere where and seen such outright disregard for the speed limit. Even going 10 over and I still get passed like I'm going backwards. Whether or not the city is doing this to make a buck the cameras are definately needed. You don't wand a ticket and you want to stick it to the man? Don't freaking speed.

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  3. Speeding is the last concern the city of CR should be worried about. If someone can show me how this will reduce true crime. I'm on board. The reality is this city has bigger issues than speeding & red light traffic violations. The tax $ for these systems would have been better served as community policing efforts in 'at risk' neighborhoods.

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  4. AnonymousMay 17, 2010

    to "Jason" enjoy your $25 ticket that you are BOUND to get if they catch you for even 1 mile over! that is absolutly, insanely ridiculous. I agree with Jon, the money spent to make these possible, could be much better used elsewhere. Way to go CR, real classy city.

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  5. AnonymousMay 17, 2010

    Jason- try Chicago, LA, New York... I think they have a BIT more "outright disregard" for the speed limit than we do. And enjoy paying your ticket which EVERYONE is bound to get if they really are ticketing for 1 mile over! That is ridiculous! Absolutely ridiculous.

    Jon- Totally agree, why don't they put the money/time used to enforce these cameras into something that is useful!

    What an absolutely awful idea and horrible decision on the cities part. I'm going to have to start budgeting $100 a week just to drive around town! haha

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  6. AnonymousMay 18, 2010

    The only way this is going to stop is if nobody pays the tickets and/or everyone votes out the dishonest lockstepping facists that came up with this as a revenue source. I have lived in this area for over 20 years and visited others. My observation of other drivers is that they normally stay within 5 miles an hour of the speed limit (unlike many big cities I have visited).

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  7. FastDriverMay 19, 2010

    Getting a ticket in the mail for driving one mile per hour over the speed limit is what is supposed to happen in the first place. This is just happening because the cops are too damn lazy to pull the drivers over themselves and have to do paperwork.
    They're taking the easy way out. it's also the cheap/dirty way out too.
    Have fun Cedar Rapidians, I'm moving out.

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  8. AnonymousMay 31, 2010

    THESE CAMERAS WILL FAIL !! All a person has to do is get a GPS Unit Like Tom Tom or Garmin for $120-300 and use Garmin's POI Downloader to have all the Speed Cameras known put in to their GPS unit.

    Then when you get 200 yards or so to one of these Speed Ripoff Cameras, an Alert appears on your GPS.

    You Slow Down, go by the camera, then back to usual speed.

    I'll be that every City Official has a GPS in their Car just for this purpose !!!

    Can we all say "Elitist A-wipes" !!!

    So, what will it be a one time $120 to keep your way of life or an occasional $500 ticket ?


    Any Questions ?

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  9. AnonymousJune 01, 2010

    boycott cr businesses, go around cr. or get out of the town quick to hazzardous. make it a ghost town.

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  10. AnonymousJune 02, 2010

    1. Do Cops ALWAYS drive the speed limit when on duty….I doubt it, and do they get tickets?

    2. Go fight the meth problem and leave those OUTLAWS that go 1 mph over the speed limit alone.

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  11. 1. Do Cops ALWAYS drive the speed limit when on duty….I doubt it, and do they get tickets?

    2. Go fight the meth problem and leave those OUTLAWS that go 1 mph over the speed limit alone.

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  12. AnonymousJune 10, 2010

    I think this is outrageous!! I just received a ticket for $50! In the picture I am right behind a truck! Are they ticketing EVERYONE on that road? Wow! Someone's making a lot of money!! There are already so many reasons to dislike Cedar Rapids at this point I am sure this will not help! I have heard people saying they are going to leave this town. I can almost see the 10 mile an hour over, but 1 mile!! Come on! Seriously? That is crazy! Just were I work I hear tons of people talking about the ticket they got in the mail! Wow! Can you imagine how many people are getting these and how much money is being made? There are real criminals out there why isn't something being done about them? This is just stupid!!!!!!!!!!!! What a way to boost the economy!

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  13. AnonymousJuly 23, 2010

    @jason - i'm one of the guys going by you. By the way, speeding is completely arbitrary. Who said the speed limit had to be x? I say it should be x+10. or 20.

    Anyway, the speed camera on I380N is ridiculous! It is 100 yards north of a speedlimit change from 60- to 55. That means if you are going the speedlimit 100 yards ago, you get a ticket!

    Oh and more than 100 cop cars have been ticketed by these cams.

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  14. @Anon - you're an idiot. I say this with extreme prejudice. Are you familiar with engineering, specifically road engineering?

    The reason for X being the speed limit comes down to safety and physics. They build ramped curves into highways to keep your car from sliding off the road on turns. (Look up kinetic friction.) They are built for only certain speeds. That's why you hear about cars losing control and flipping into the ditch, or sliding through the median into oncoming traffic. It's also why roads have to be updated when the speed limits are increased.

    The other reason for X being the speed limit is the type of pedestrians in the area. Streets in neighborhoods are often flat and straight and a person could theoretically go 50 or 60. BUT take into account animals, cars backing out, children playing in yards and people riding bikes and walking on streets, the proximity of houses to the street... doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

    Quit being a conspiracy theorist and learn a little about physics.

    @ All - if you actually pay attention to the news, the cameras have built in a buffer of 5 mph to account for speedometer variations, just like an officer taking radar.

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  15. ok getting people to slow down and what not. they need to give us more of a heads up. Plus 1mph you get a ticket?? Thats too gay to get a ticketed. im pretty sure that some of the cops around there when there off duty went 27 in a 25.

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  16. This is just another sign that local government, or national for that matter cannot stay within a budget. They know we are fed up with tax increases. This is their solution? Ridiculous. Your vehicles speedometer is not dead on accurate. Something as simple as tire prssure can through it off. Even MORE than 1 mile per hour. There needs to be a buffer zone if they continue to abuse our wallets in this fashion. I am ashamed of you CEDAR RAPIDS!!!!

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  17. My parents, in their 70's, loaned their vehicle to a family member for a weekend. They received a $75.00 photo "ticket" in the mail. They don't drive out of town. The ticket includes 2 pictures of the back of the vehicle, nothing of the driver. How do I help them fight this?

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  18. My parents, in their 70's, loaned their car out for the weekend. They just received a $75.00 photo "ticket" in the mail. There is only 2 photos of the back of their car with a semi next to it. Any chance the semi tripped the camera? And how do I help them contest the ticket when they don't leave town?

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  19. This is ridiculous that the City holds the car owner responsible! At least in AZ the first paper document shows a picture from the front of the vehicle and asks you to identify the driver. I'll find a way around CR from now on...or I'll invest in the covers to put the glare on my plates so that I can't be held responsible for another persons actions.

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  20. I thought it was a hoax. When the ticket came it said send your payment to NY...Checked the web site and it said Cedar Rapids, IL. Call the police in CR told me it was the real deal and if I wanted to fight it I could show up to court at 8pm on a weekday. Given 10 mins. to talk to not a judge but a volunteer citizen. I live two hours from CR and they would not let me fight it by mail unless I lived outside IA. Plus if you agree to fight it and don't show up for court they told me they could bring up criminal charges.....how...for a municipal code violation?????? Where are my rights??

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  21. It is time to boycott all business in Cedar Rapids Iowa until they rescind the law.

    It is time to blog, facebook, twitter, and start making an impact. Get enough angry Cedar Rapids business people talking to their city council and the cameras will disappear.

    The rest of Iowa should be boycotted until the state legislature passes a law outlawing the practice. Visit Minnesota, we had the common sense to outlaw this nutty idea.

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  22. This is such BS!! One more reason not to drive through that dump of a town. I will NEVER go to or through Cedar Rapids again. I hope that it turns into a ghost town.

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  23. I drive through CR everyday to get to work, I always make it a point to drop my speed before the camaras (b/c I think it's they are a bs way to get more profit into the city).

    I just received two tickets in the mail today, both of them for 67 in a 55, which I know I wasn't doing b/c per my above comment and the fact that I never speed over 10+...anyways, two of my co-workers also received a ticket for 67 in a 55...I plan on fighting this at the Admin Hall (b/c you don't actually go to court to fight this).

    Their only recoarse is to send your fees to collections if you don't pay them, they can't send anything to the DMV or to your insurance company- then you can dispute the charges on your credit report (in my case by b/f and I are both on the ticket b/c we're both on the registration of the vehicle).

    If the "prosecuter" at the admin hall doesn't have a witness they have no proof that you were speeding...I know this all sounds time consuming but I'll take the hour out of work to take up the time of others b/c of these tickets.

    Plus I know I wasn't speeding at these exact times and if no one else thinks it's weird that out of four tickets...all four of them were 67 out of 55 (which happens to be the cut of for a $75 fine) then you need to get your head out of the CR city politican's a**es!

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  24. I went through CR on the way to a business meeting in Cedar Falls on September 24th, and was aware of the speed camera so I was not speeding and recieved a notice today that I was doing 67 in a 55 zone. It seems strange that there are so many 67 in 55 from people that are aware of the cameras. How do we fight city hall on this? Sounds like the camera(s )were not calibrated correctly? My car has GPS that agrees with my speedometer and I have been through the roadside radar units that show you your speed so I am sure that my car & GPS were not wrong.

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  25. Got a "Notice Of violation" the other day. Evidentally they have a couple of pictures of my vehicle going 68 in a 55. Not sure what that has to do with me, but they want me to send them $75 to make it go away. My favorite part is - "failure to pay the civil fine or to contest liability is an admission of liability..." Maybe they can start doing that with DUI's, Bank robberies, rapes, etc. For a rape they could sent a Notice of violation to all people possessing Penis's in CR and say if they don't pay or prove innocence, they are admitting liability. Bet that would be an even better revenue generator.

    I'm mad about this, but even worse I am saddened that my state would perpetrate this stunt.

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  26. KGAN was incorrect ( you can rely on them for that at least ) and there are not tickets being issued for one mile over. In fact at present the speed cameras on I-380 are calibrated not to give tickets unless you are going 67 in the 55 zone. Face it - if you are that much over, you have no regard for your safety, the safety of others, or the laws. You deserve the ticket.
    Additionally, unpaid tickets now will be reported to collection agencies with the added provision that they CAN and WILL submit this information to credit agencies. It will affect your crediting rate, insurance premiums, etc.
    Drive the speed limit. If you speed, pay your ticket.
    it's really just THAT simple, but people want to be allowed to do as they please in a nation comprised of laws, and that's simply wishful and childish thinking.

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  27. I don't think this is stooping low, but enforcing a law that isn't enforced enough anyway. Even though many people think speeding is no big deal, it does put peoples lives at risk. It is definitely a step in the right direction for law enforcement. They should do this everywhere.

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  28. You are wrong about the 1 mph over recieving a ticket. On I 380 you have to be going faster than 66 mph in a 55 zone. 67 mph is the lowest speed given a ticket. In the city of Cedar Rapids the speed cams are giving at least 6 or 7 mph leeway.

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  29. I just recieved one of these rediculous tickets in the mail, although it took them a month to get it to me. $75?! WTF! At least they could have given me a color photo for that kind of money! Cedar Rapids has so many problems I guess they need to suck more money out of us tax payers. Why don't they stick those cameras in Walmart or some other stores and catch the crooks robbing CR blind. Or better yet spend the money on a device the sniffs that dog shit fume coming out of ADM and clean that up!

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  30. Wow cameras in Cedar Rapids have nabbed over 41,000 motorists. That's almost 20% of the population.

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  31. I just got one of these tickets today. I did not even know that the speed limit changed at the curve. That is my fault for not knowing this but Cedar Rapids is saying that I was going 71 in a 55 witch is BS. But either way I loose. It would cost me just as much to fight this as it would be to just pay it off. Cedar Rapids will get My 75 bucks. But there business's will not because I will avoid this city like the plague.

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  32. I just got one of these tickets too. Another 67 in a 55. I'd like them to send us the picture of the speed limit sign that I didn't see because I don't go 10+ miles over the limit. I'd bet they make sure to send them to the out-of-state drivers like myself.

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  33. jim from minnNovember 20, 2010

    Got my first speeding ticket ever in 40 years of driving from the CR camera.
    $75.
    Dang.
    I like CR, though. And I like Iowa a lot. I won't stop visiting. I'll definitely go a little nuts hugging the speed limit from now on and this will further annoy my wife but it will not imperil our marriage (I hope). Has CR saved my life? Probably not. Have I written an inane and meandering post? Definitely. Enjoy my dollars, CR. Spend them on a kid.

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  34. So the vast majority of the people on this blog are upset about their tickets, but what can we do to stop this mobile camera practice? These camera's have really changed the feel of the city I have lived in for over 15 years. It has gone from a city where people are very personable and helpful (look at how people helped each other after the flood) to a city of faceless governmental intrusion.

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  35. Boycotting local businesses only hurts the people of our city. You won't get a ticket for only 1 over! If you are going 10 over you deserve the ticket. Just because the police aren't there to catch you, doesn't mean the speed limit isn't in effect.
    I regularly see people driving 45-50 in a 35...... yes, it IS a problem. Drive in 151 (First Avenue) anytime and you will get passed while going 40-45 even.

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  36. Just FYI don't speed through the cameras using a rental car. My friend got one while driving a rental car and he had to pay the rental car company and extra 25 dollars for speeding with their car on top of his 75 dollar ticket. I also heard there is talk even that the cameras on 380 will soon be able to tell if you were speeding between the cameras, I have no idea how that would work but it could also really suck!

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  37. Just FYI don't speed through the cameras using a rental car. My friend got one while driving a rental car and he had to pay the rental car company and extra 25 dollars for speeding with their car on top of his 75 dollar ticket. I also heard there is talk even that the cameras on 380 will soon be able to tell if you were speeding between the cameras, I have no idea how that would work but it could also really suck!

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  38. I live in Kentucky. I just received one of these tickets in the mail today. I am outraged over this. I used to be proud of Iowa, but this is just a money making scheme. Is this the way Iowa is going to make extra revenue? I get letters from my hometown trying to get professionals to come back. After this stunt, you can forget it. I'll stay in Kentucky, at least if I get a citation for speeding, I'll get it from a policeman at the time of the incident and not two weeks later in the mail. Good luck Cedar Rapids, you have really stooped to a new low in my book!
    Kris

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  39. The government in Cedar Rapids is definitely in need of change. If you see a blue truck cutting you off driving 10 UNDER don't get mad I'm just taking my rage out on you.

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  40. It makes me sick to hear or read about all of the great revenue traffic cameras are generating for Cedar Rapids. From May 1st 2010 to December 1st residents of Cedar Rapids have paid for 13,508 citations from traffic camera violations. Out of town drivers driving through Cedar Rapids have paid for 17,798. About 84% of the citations mailed out are for $75. For every single citation paid, Gatso USA inc of Beverly, Massachusetts gets $35. Residents of Cedar Rapids have paid approximately $1,013,100 total, $472,780 of that going to Gatso, which is really a Dutch company. Out of town drivers have paid at least $1,334,850 total, of which $622,930 went to Gatso. So roughly a million dollars has been taken from residents of Cedar Rapids to the city, then the city gave half of that to Gatso. Weak. Out of town drivers gave the city of Cedar Rapids roughly a million and a quarter but again gave half away to Gatso. So we as a city broke even, kind of. Out of town drivers will probably avoid Cedar Rapids now decreasing all city revenue. The real winner here is Gatso with over $1,000,000 of money for an automated "service". It was kind of a low blow to a decent city hurting for funds after a flood, but what if Gatso wanted to pimp Cedar Rapids harder? Would residents even care about the overall loss, or would they say, "You shouldn't have been speeding then."

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  41. If you don't pay the city will use a state law to attach your registration and you will not be able to renew either your driver's license nor your vehicle registration. Don't believe me. Call the On Duty Desk Lt. and ask him or her. So, not paying is not an option. Either pay or fight it.

    There are over 260 contested tickets that will be going to court and it will be interesting to see how these cases turn out but, the sure deal will be to all stand up and organize a "VOTE THEM OUT" campaign at the next election.

    I think a case can be made that these cameras are targeting poor people based on this one simple fact. No cameras are within 1 mile of any Mall, Why ? B/C its about money; Period !

    This is what I have done: (Honestly)

    1. I quit my job and took a $2 an hour cut so I don't have to drive on the I-380 ever again.

    2. I don't shop near any store that has a camera - S.W. Kmart, $ General, Advance Auto, and Thiesen's I will never shop again.

    3. I bought a GPS Angel that warns me 3 blocks away and I detour around the cameras.

    Do I speed, NO. Why do all this. Because these cameras are not really just a camera. You see, the PODS on the poles are scanners and they can read RFID chips of anyone with in 100 feet.

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  42. What the previous person is saying concerning RFID Chips. Starting in 2008 the state of Iowa started issuing new drivers licenses that contain a very small chip called - RFID or Radio Freqency Information Device. The Police, Wal-Mart and others can read this chip and they know who was where at what given time. So, what happens is the GASTOPO cameras can know who is riding in your car at a given location at a given time. In other words, if a crime happens and you are in the area and you look like the perp, well better have bail money set aside.

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  43. If I where a police officer in CR I would feel like a lazy fool and be scared of loosing my job to a company outside of the state that has some fancy cameras that patrol the streets. I myself will never visit or drive through CR again. Enjoy your lame run down city.Eric

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  44. I travel with my family through Cedar Rapids about 4 times a year between IL and MN. I didn't know about the speed camera's until I got my gift in the mail today. Let me say that I will never, ever, stop in the Cedar Rapids area and spend another penny on food or gas. Tell your city leaders to put that in their pipe and smoke it. Now who loses!

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  45. I like many others received my ticket today. In the past I was happy to spend my out-of-town money in CR - but will avoid giving CR any more of it - $75 now and a loss of thousands - a horrible business decision for CR. Better yet - all of us “out-of-towners” don't have to pay the ticket as long as we don't move there (which I can guarantee after this ticket many won't). So now you upset the nation and you still won't get any revenue - idiots. Vote this out - and maybe a few of us will come back.

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  46. Wow. I just got a ticket in the mail. Funny thing is that I am currently deployed in Afghanistan and my brother was driving my car.

    I am going to contest this but I'm guessing I will still be liable for the $75 charge.

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  47. Two problems: 1, my daughter (we're from another state) was going with traffic on 380, which is an interstate grade road, that is way under posted to the 85th percentile engineering criteria, so the speeding ticket camera is on a road designed such that 55 is artificially low, and 2, the ticket says we mail the fine to NEW YORK?

    Most people are unaware that speed and red light camera manufactures get a "commission" of each ticket. That's not a fine, that's a racket!! more at motorists dot org

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  48. I just got one in the mail, a $75 for 67 in a 55. Odd thing was I had a radar detector (Escort Passport 9500i) and didn't hear a peep out of it. This isn't a Walmart radar detector, either. I'm suspicious of these "67 in 55" violations when that's the threshold for issuing a ticket... I'm thinking my Illinois plates didn't help me any.

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  49. I'm not from CR, but I received a ticket while visiting. The traffic was light; the weather was great; I don't think I used poor judgment when I was going 67 in a 55. I don't think a police officer would have pulled me over and given me a ticket. I realize that's debatable. What's not debatable is I will avoid going to CR in the future whenever possible. I'm a safe and responsible driver. Doesn't sound like good economic or public safety policy to discourage people like me to avoid traveling to an otherwise very nice city.

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  50. I will never drive through CR again or spend any money in CR when I'm traveling from MO to MN. I have never received a speeding ticket in my life, except for the speed camera in Cedar Rapids. I contested the ticket and still have to pay. Will they actually do anything if I don't pay? From all of these comments, I hope their revenue plan backfires on them. I'm just really surprised Iowa would endorse this type of program in the first place.

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  51. Today I received one of these "special" driving 67 MPH in a 55 MPH zone tickets from a work trip in Iowa in January. I find it quite peculiar from everyone’s comments that most tickets show “67” MPH as the recorded speed. 90% of my crew received one of these tickets and we were all in separate vehicles. Neither my speedometer nor my Tom tom showed my driving over the speed limit in Cedar Rapids. Has anyone that has contested their ticket gotten it overturned? What is the best defense to get it overturned? I380is an interstate highway, the law requires that signage has to be posted within 300 feet of the photo radar device. Most often cities fail to comply with this law. Can anyone tell me if there is a sign within 300 feet of the speed camera on I380 NB @ H Ave (I live on the West Coast, so can’t run down and check)? Thanks

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  52. ALL OF YOU DON'T GET IT. THERE ARE OVER A DOZEN WAYS TO BEAT A SPEED CAMERA TICKET WITH THE FIRST AND FORMOST BEING THROW IT AWAY AND PRETEND THAT YOU NEVER SAW IT. IF YOU NEVER GOT IT, IT DIDN;T HAPPEN IN YOUR EYES SORRY IT MUST HAVE BEEN LOST IN THE MAIL. SECOND IS THERE A CLEAR PICTURE OF YOU DRIVING THE CAR, NO, I AM SORRY YOUR HONOR NUT THAT IS NOT ME DRIVING THE CAR. AND THERE ARE EVEN MORE JUST USE SOME COMMON SENSE. I PERSONALLY THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE THEM IT IS GENERATING A HUGE AMOUNT OF REVENUE FOR THE CITY FROM THE INCOMPITANT PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN. AND IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT I ASK YOU TO TELL ME WHERE IN THE WORLD DO THEY NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THW WEAK. IF YOU ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS THEN YOU ARE ONE OF THESE PEOPLE, USE YOUR HEADS PEOPLE LETS GO.

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  53. i just received a cr photo speeding ticket 3 weeks after passing thru cr. Just how are they going to collect this since i am an illinois resident? will never go thru iowa on way to mn again, as going thru wisconsin is just as short. the wife said, i told you not to go thru iowa. never again. good luck collecting the $75!

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  54. This cannot be cost effective.

    I travel all through out the US for business and will NEVER do business in this kanagroo court scam. Just got mailed one of the souvenirs they provide whether you want it or not.

    P.S A St. Louis County municipality was sued and ordered to stop these as they CAN NOT prove anything other than a car with the plates passed at that time.

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